[Massive Beach Party Thread!] -- [Everyone]

[kirktastic]

Communication to All

Your oh so lovely Captain has reserved an entire bar for our use for our final night on Risa! You can get the position of it from the attached file. Nice little place, tucked up on the beach and right up against the waterline, full bar with everything you can imagine! I'll be seeing you all around sunset!


[OOC: This thread can run as long as we need it too, far past the 'end' of Risa Saturday night. Feel free to post anywhere, there's no order, who gives a damn about how the thread looks, just HAVE FUN!]

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[sehlatbear.livejournal.com]

"Then you are in some way acquainted with the Vulcan manner of emotional control. Because of my human half, this was in many ways more difficult for me than for other Vulcan children. I considered the kohlinahr. I pursued a path of suppression rather than simple control.

There is a small possibility I have offered myself deep injury through this path."

[kirk-george.livejournal.com]

"I'd say far more than a small," George said meditatively. "You are both human and Vulcan...mind, I've no experience, but seems to me, trying to only be one without the other is saying you're right handed, and cutting off the left since it's not as useful."

[sehlatbear.livejournal.com]

Spock nodded.

"It is Leonard who convinces me that such may be a possibility. My Jim is many things to me, and he incites action. But it is my Leonard who demonstrates the worth of my human side."

[kirk-george.livejournal.com]

George smiled. "Does he know that?"

[sehlatbear.livejournal.com]

"I had thought so. Yet as was demonstrated by other conversations with Jim, perhaps I am not clear when communicating with my human mates."

Spock shook his head slowly.

"My Jim believed 'I accept you as you are' meant 'I would prefer you not to have sex with other people.'"

Spock still doesn't understand that one.

[kirk-george.livejournal.com]

"One of the things that really helped my group was sitting down and having a long talk," George said. "We didn't go directly from in a relationship to monogamy....it took a while. Eventually I settled down, but it took me a bit to realize that was what I wanted."

"What we did, in the beginning, was sit down, all three of us, and lay out some ground rules. I was allowed to sleep around, so long as I used protection, was tested regularly, did not bring them back to our rooms, and informed them when I planned to, or if it was a spur of the moment thing, informed them afterward. I'd screwed up my relationship with Winnie before, when I thought I was obeying the rules she set out, but she'd meant them a different way. This time we were pretty clear. It helped, a lot, to break it down."

[sehlatbear.livejournal.com]

"I am uninterested in dictating such boundaries to my lovers - though Leonard and I have well established that Jim is safe in his practices. Leonard and Jim settled between them that they are friends - they love each other yet not as I love them."

[kirk-george.livejournal.com]

George grinned cheerfully. "All I can tell you is what worked for me. Eventually, I stopped having sex with lots of people because really? Why settle for soft serve fast food ice cream when I had creme brulee waiting at home for me. Our boundaries weren't dictated. Would have told Winnie and Chris where they could shove themselves if they dictated them. They're things we sat down, discussed, and made the decision together. That's what was most important for us. To make decisions together and communicate when something was bothering us or needed to be changed."

"Relationships are hard work and they're constantly changing. The tide comes in, the tide goes out, that much is set...but the shapes it leaves each time are a new variation. Don't close the door on new variations, configurations. Honestly...really what's the most important from what I've discovered in a relationship is communication. Communications in words, communication in gesture, communication in deed."

[sehlatbear.livejournal.com]

"I make no predictions about the eventual decisions of Jim. He is... unpredictable at best.

Communication among humans appears rather more complicated than in Vulcan relationships. We rely rather more thoroughly on the bond - it is difficult to take offense when you see the heart and mind of your lover."

[kirk-george.livejournal.com]

"I can guess," George nodded. "Although, I'd think that it would be easier. One stray random thought..."

[sehlatbear.livejournal.com]

*eyebrow*

"Their thoughts are their own. Moreover, why would random thoughts affect me? Perhaps it is difficult to understand how these matters differ for Vulcans.

I wish them to be happy in their human way. I wish to protect their happiness, and however they choose to achieve it."

[kirk-george.livejournal.com]

"That's about three quarters of the battle," George smiled. "Everything else can be learned. Here's another idea...make a list to yourself of things you know your Leonard will not do for himself because he thinks they're indulgent or silly."